Talking how babies smell, intergenerational friendships & more with Isabel Cowles Murphy

This was a ridiculous amount of fun because Isabel is so full of energy. We covered a lot of ground, from her writing (and mine), to the self-identity she has from her previous job as a prosecutor.

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Yesterday’s conversation revealed much that

and I have in common; as well as the differences, from her perspective at 40 and mine at 73. I think we covered almost everything we’d agreed to talk about:

  • On the topic of how I make younger friends: I told her I chatted up everyone who sat next to me on my recent solo trip to Paris. Apparently, doing so in French is a “status flex,” a term I learned recently from

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  • Isabel says she thinks of herself as being in her mid-80s; despite that, she is grieving over being done with having more babies. (She has four young sons.)

  • What stands in the way of making an older, or younger, friend is the fear of being judged, as well as the …

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