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Taru Fisher's avatar

Wow, just WOW! I created a PDF of this one and am keeping it in my Substack file so I can refer to it for inspiration. 2 days ago I turned 82, and had been writing sporadically on Substack since late 2023. I am loving it and all the amazing elderwomen I am finding here. I've been told for years by friends I should write a book about my life, and this is inspiring me to finally do just that. Thank you SO much for sharing Abigail Thomas!

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Debbie Weil's avatar

Taru, cool idea, thanks. What did you use to convert the web page of the Q&A to a PDF?? I googled around and couldn't find anything truly "free"!

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Taru Fisher's avatar

I’m using a Mac (since 1986) and I have the capability to highlight the text I want, select Copy, Paste it into a Word document, send it to Print command, and instead of printing it, I have the option to save it as a PDF. It’s fairly simple and I use it a lot.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you for liking it. So now you have to get started on your memoir.

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Taru Fisher's avatar

Yes, I have had a start for over 15 years, which I have hidden on my hard drive. It’s from a Learning Autobiography I was required to write for a class at De Paul University. It has the bones, and now I have to add the meat. I appreciate your support!

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Prajna O'Hara's avatar

Wow, Good for you. She is an inspiration beyond measure. A keeper.

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According to Mimi's avatar

Fantastic interview! We need an Abby club - we can get matching tee-shirts.

Seriously, I plan to buy her book and would not have known about it or her without this interview. Thank you for bringing her to our attention.

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Debbie Weil's avatar

for the T-shirts: “French Toast whenever we want it”

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According to Mimi's avatar

Right?! My husband keeps trying to get me to switch to the sugar free syrup. What's the point of French Toast without the good syrup - and real butter?

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Debbie Weil's avatar

don’t switch!

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

I'm sure she won't!

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According to Mimi's avatar

We are, indeed, a house divided.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

ALAS!!!

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

There's no point. And you need to fry it in lots of butter too. Maple syrup!

Butter is good for you.

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Pamela Schieber's avatar

The Canadian maple syrup is the best.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

YES.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Oh. What a funny idea! Can I be president?

And thank you, and Debbie, for her excellent questions.

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Sarah Copeland's avatar

What a wise and vibrant woman! If this were a paper article I would have highlighted more than half of it. The piece about guilt > regret! Her advice about writing. And also this: Yes. "Desperately staying strong and healthy is so boring. Have a piece of cake. Have two. It seems so humorless."

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Debbie Weil's avatar

Sarah, thanks for this! I was a newspaper reporter way back, so I know exactly what you mean. And the cake... I love cake and icing too!

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you very much. How lovely.

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Lila Sterling's avatar

Incredible interview!

I have it saved as I’m gonna keep reading it until I push this block I have.

And I love someone’s idea of starting an Abby club, with matching tee shirts of course. 👏🏻💝

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Rhaine Della Bosca's avatar

Inspired. Full of gold!

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you very much.

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Nancy Stordahl's avatar

Hi Debbie,

Thank you for this interview. Abigail Thomas has been one of my favorites for a long time. Love her writing, sense of humor, and wit. I have several of her books, but of course, my favorite is A Three Dog Life. I like to tell myself my writing is a tad like hers. Something worth striving for anyway, right?

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you, and thank you for the compliment.

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Nancy Hendrickson's avatar

As a woman who is between your age and Abigail’s, I can definitely say I don’t give a sh*t about a great many things. I write, I love, I am fulfilled. Beyond that, I don’t have the desire to give other things that much energy.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Me too. Energy reserved for writng and family, friends, too.

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Kelly Thompson TNWWY's avatar

This rocks! Thank you Debbie!

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Kathleen Fullerton's avatar

I remember my immigrant grandmother, my fearless irreverent role model, in her 80s wondering "why am I drinking fat-free milk??" And went to her full fat for her ever present coffee. I usually don't like/follow "old lady" Substacks/newsletters. They rarely live up to this multilayered, profane, chaotic life I've curated. Yet here I am.

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Debbie Weil's avatar

Kathleen, I am taking that as the highest compliment ("I usually don't like/follow "old lady" Substacks/newsletters). You've nailed it: my goal is to reveal how life is "multilayered, profane, chaotic." I’m trying to walk the line between being proudly [b]old and brutally realistic about getting old--in these Q&As and also my essays. Thanks for your comment!

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Kathleen Fullerton's avatar

And what a line to walk it is! I look forward to reading more and see how this all unfolds, too. x

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Sue Sutherland-Wood's avatar

When I first read about and then *actually* read, Abigail Thomas' work, I suddenly realized that I am an essayist. And that this is a legitimate thing to be. (As opposed to "real" writers who write novels, thank you Mean Voice from Within haha ...) I was riveted by every simple every-day-thing that she talked about and felt buoyed up after reading. Especially her honest descriptions of dread - I had thought it was only me who kept company with the demons during the night. Thanks for this wonderful interview Debbie! And super hard to pick a fav quote from here but this is mine: "I write really for clarity, for myself."

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you again, it means a lot to me.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you very much. Happy that was the quote you liked. We do write for clartiy. Clarity is comfort.

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Sue Sutherland-Wood's avatar

You are the best! Your encouragement means so much.

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Molly Collie's avatar

Absolutely love Abby! Got to spend a morning with her last year with a mutual friend sitting in her living room talking and laughing. What a treasure!

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

We did have fun, Molly I was so glad to meet you.

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Good Humor by CK Steefel's avatar

Wonderful interview. Does she have a Substack? I do care less as I age in some areas of life— what people think of me. But I care more about issues in the world.

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Debbie Weil's avatar

CK, yes, good point, thanks for adding. Find Abigail here https://abigailthomas.substack.com/

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Issues in the world are horrifting. So are the politics in this countdy. Half of us are out of our mind. Dunbfounding

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Morgan Wrolstad's avatar

So so good, so many threads of gold in this.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Thank you. I love the idea of threads of gold.

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Georgia Patrick's avatar

Discovery of extraordinary people fuels my days. Thank you for introducing Abigail Thomas. Most of all, I am inspired by writers like Abigail Thomas and Parker Palmer, both in their 80's who have published many books and each one is original. They don't do another version of an earlier book. The writing is aspirational because every word is measured twice and cut once. Any book that makes me say, "I would love to write that well" is worth my energy and money. I'm not feeling that vibe with the glut of online writers, not yet 40, who offer their hacks (and online course) for life and work.

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Debbie Weil's avatar

Georgia, what an interesting comment. I must say I feel the same way about older writers (and older women): they fascinate and inspire me!

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Rona Maynard's avatar

Delightful. Abby has piqued my appetite for French toast. It has been too long.

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Abigail Thomas's avatar

Go make sme right now.

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Wendy Varley's avatar

Thanks for this, Debbie. Abigail is so inspiring. It was through another guest post by her (via Oldster magazine's Substack) that I originally found her writing earlier this year, just as I was starting my own Substack. As you've mentioned, her keen curiosity means she's extremely good at giving prompts. She thought to ask me what was in my Wendy's World jar of bits and bobs and with that, I was away!

Her published memoirs are extraordinary and I always want to know what she's thinking on her own Substack, What Comes Next?

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Debbie Weil's avatar

Wendy, love that her prompt was so inspirational for you!

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Wendy Varley's avatar

It really was, Debbie. Thank you, Abigail!

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